‘Ahsoka’: Here’s Why Shin Hati Might Be Captain Phasma – Theories Explained


We know that there are a lot of strong female enemies in the world of Star Wars, as they are all capable of holding their own against some of the most prominent Star Wars characters. In that regard, two of the newer names stand out. One is Shin Hati, who was introduced as the Padawan of Baylan Skoll during the events of the ‘Ahsoka’ series. The other one was the Stormtrooper leader named Captain Phasma.

While we know that the storylines and timelines of Shin and Phasma tend to be very different, some wild theories are surfacing regarding the possibility that they could be the same people. We are not claiming that they are the same, but we are only talking about the wild theories that have been sprouting out of nowhere on the internet. So, with that said, let’s look at why some fans think there could be a connection between Shin Hati and Captain Phasma.

Their allegiances to the Imperial remnants/First Order

First things first, one of the things that stands out about both Shin Hati and Captain Phasma is the fact that they are both allied with the bad guys. There is no doubt that these characters were introduced to be antagonists, and that means that the connection is already there as far as the bad guy allegiance is concerned.

Shin, of course, is allied with Baylan Skoll, a fallen Jedi who survived Order 66 and became more active during the time of the New Republic because the Empire was no longer hunting Jedi. Baylan and Shin allied themselves with Morgan Elsbeth, who we know spent years looking for Grand Admiral Thrawn after the master strategist disappeared during the ending of ‘Star Wars: Rebels.’

As such, Shin has allied herself with the Imperial remnants actively searching for Thrawn. Of course, we know that the Imperial remnants ultimately became the First Order after they reorganized themselves.

Fast forward to the future, Captain Phasma appeared as one of the stormtroopers allied with the First Order during the events of ‘Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens.’ She was an armor-clad Stormtrooper who acted as the leader of the First Order Stormtroopers. And because she spent the entire time wearing her armor, we never saw her face.

Because we know that the Imperial remnants eventually reorganized themselves into the First Order, some fans believe that Shin ultimately swore her allegiance to the First Order and became the leader of the Stormtroopers. Of course, there are more than 20 years between the two timelines, and fans believe that this was enough for Shin to change her identity to become Captain Phasma.

The quest for power

During the earlier episodes of ‘Ahsoka,’ we learned that Baylan and Shin were not looking for Thrawn for the sake of the Empire and its remnants. Instead, they were looking for him to obtain power that they could use for their goals. Baylan even revealed to Ahsoka that he didn’t want to start a war but was only looking to obtain the power necessary to achieve a grand goal.


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In that regard, Shin was likely after the same thing that her master was looking for. Being Baylan’s apprentice, Shin must have had similar goals in the sense that she was hungry for strength and power. While we are yet to understand the goals of Baylan and Shin, we do know that they are willing to obtain power even if they have to start a war.

Meanwhile, in the backstory of Captain Phasma, one of the reasons why she decided to join the First Order was to obtain strength and power. Phasma was proud of her own power, and that was how she became one of the highest-ranking Stormtroopers in the First Order. She even thought that the First Order and its Stormtroopers were a lot stronger than the Empire’s own army, which means that she was proud of her power.

We also discovered that Phasma was obsessed with becoming stronger and more powerful. She was willing to throw anyone under the bus or sacrifice them for the sake of her own survival so that she could become more powerful. And the only reason she joined the First Order was that this group was her ticket to survival and more power.

The fact that both Shin and Phasma are obsessed with power is one of the reasons why some fans think that there’s a connection between them. We know that Shin wants power for certain goals, and it could be possible that she eventually joined the First Order to obtain the power she yearned for. Some theorists think that she gave up her original identity to become Phasma to obtain more power.

Problems surrounding the theories

Of course, the theories remain theories because many things would immediately point out the flaws in the theories regarding Shin Hati being Captain Phasma. And the first thing that pops out is the fact that there is an actual comic book that tells the backstory of Phasma.


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In Phasma’s backstory, she was born on 6 ABY, making her around 29 years old during the time of the sequel trilogy. On the other hand, Shin was already around her 20s during the events of ‘Ahsoka,’ which likely took place on 9 ABY. This already defeats the theory as there are only three years between Phasma’s birth and the events of ‘Ahsoka.’

There’s also the fact that Phasma already has a story that tells her entire journey from childhood to the First Order. None of those stories actually match Shin’s current story in ‘Ahsoka,’ and this means that there is no way that Shin and Phasma are the same person.

Finally, Shin is a powerful Force wielder. We are not only talking about someone capable of using the Force simply, but we are actually talking about Shin’s powerful Force abilities, which allowed her to become a Padawan who could wield a lightsaber masterfully and use Force powers, such as Force push and even Force choke. On the other hand, Phasma never used the Force even though she was always regarded as a proud and strong warrior.

We’re not even realizing that Shin is simply a lot smaller than Phasma. This all leads to the fact that Shin and Phasma don’t have stories that are connected to one another in any single way other than the fact that they both allied themselves with the bad guys.

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